You didn’t think too deeply about this did you? Of course not. If you were prone to thinking deeply about things… you probably wouldn’t be a Feminist, now would you?
I’m screaming “THAT’S THE POINT THAT’S LITERALLY THE POINT YOU JUST MADE THE EXACT POINT” at my computer screen right now.
white feminists and white “critical” fangirls can boohoo all they want about how they’d like their female characters to exist as more than a love interest or have romances downplayed in their character arcs
I’ll sit over here in my intersectional corner wishing and hoping for WoC characters with romance-heavy arcs because really, how often do you see that in media
how often do you see us romanced and cherished without it being made into a fetish or a temporary fuck before we get thrown over for the ultimate end-game white love interest
Let’s face it, without the incredible, innovative work of women in hip hop, all these ivory tower feminists would be out of work. They don’t spend years and years dissecting these images just for fun. (Well ok, maybe a little.) They dissect this shit because it’s destabilizing and thought-provoking. And I learned about feminism from TLC and Destiny’s Child and Missy Elliott— WAY before I ever even heard of Bikini Kill.
i find it interesting and sad how white feminist outrage only seems to fully manifest when it’s WoC acting outside the guidelines of appropriate womanhood
nevermind that WoC womanhood is often in direct opposition to white womanhood because of racism
nevermind that we empower ourselves differently because of the intersections of racism and misogyny
because to y’all, being the princess in the tower is degrading, and weak
but to me? that’s awesome. because i never get to be the princess. i always have to be the maid. and so many white feminists are intent on keeping it that way.
Well done Sunday Times, you decided to write a spread on Feminism and successfully included all the problematic white cis feminists who parade around ruining feminism for the rest of us. Lena Dunham, and her lack of PoC in “Girls” as well as her problematic, racist, Orientalist travel diaries soon to be published as a book; Hadley Freeman, who shames women like Beyonce for being happy enough with their bodies to pose/wear little clothing (and thus, Beyonce is not allowed call herself a feminist!?); the Vagenda for dismissing intersectionality because it’s ~too hard~, for always sticking up for Moran, and this lovely quote, ignoring all the feminist efforts by WoC, “feminism is, and to an extent always has been, a white, middle class movement”; and Caitlin Moran, possibly the biggest douche EVER, who’s slut-shamed, victim-blamed, “literally could not give a shit” about the lack of PoC in Lena’s “Girls” and never, ever, EVER owns up or apologises for her mistakes.
Yep, a really fantastic load of feminists you have there, and of course, there was obviously no space to feature any feminists of colour right (or feminists with worthwhile, non-problematic, intersectional points of view…?)
social justice identitarians love branding themselves, don’t they? reactionary whiteness is terribly trend aware.
are you kidding me with that vagenda bullshit? intersectional feminism or no feminism, i say.
When people ask me what folks are talking about when I say “mainstream feminism” — well. It is this. And even if you do not agree with the things these feminists are putting forth as mainstream feminist values, these are still the people and values getting the column inches.
This is a large part of the modern face of feminism and it is a problem.
Can we be real for a second and talk about WHY this is “the face of feminism” according to the mainstream media? And why these are the people - along with garbage like Hugo Schwyzer - making money off of feminism?
It’s because, yes, they’re white, and no, they don’t subscribe to more “radical” ideas like feminism that addresses racial issues, class issues, and issues faced by trans and non-binary persons. I don’t think those things are radical, I think they’re the bare minimum for calling yourself a feminist/decent human being, but that’s why I’m not making oodles as a feminist writer.
When you don’t say anything that threatens the power structure in a real way, you’re the perfect feminist for powerful institutions to embrace. You become the perfect token for the mainstream media to prove how progressive and anti-sexist it is without ever having to take a risk or change how it operates.
“Damsel in Distress: Part 1 - Tropes vs Video Games” from Anita Sarkeesian’s “Feminist Frequency”.
Fortunately, Anita Sarkeesian didn’t let the backlash against her Kickstarter campaign stop her. Here’s the promising opening to her series of videos analyzing tropes of women in video games.
her fans are insane, radical feminists.
In my opinion, the really radical feminists don’t help the cause of equality, they ruin credibility.
Most of those comments are making fun of her in a troll way.
That’s a not a really thorough and impressive argument you have there, in fact it’s all all baseless overblown generalizations.
you have no idea what radical feminism is, do you? I mean, if you think that’s radical feminism, I hate to see what real radical feminism would do to you.
Feminism’s credibility isn’t ruined by people who don’t put up with dudebros throwing hissy fits over critique of their precious video games and saying anti-semitic things and making rape threats, it’s ruined by
a) misogynists and ignorant people who do smear campaigns on feminists because they can’t handle critique.
b) feminists who have a lack of commitment to intersectionality and do problematic shit to people of color/lgbtq people etc
The kind of comments she got are not cool ever. They are not making fun in a troll way. If you think they’re okay, you’re not worth dealing with.
Day 25: In response to the response about feminism and angry people and this video
I’m a woman and I obviously respect our rights and equality in general, but do we have to be so harsh? So angry?
Some people are still trying to understand. But fighting won’t solve it.
It’s just not necessary. Thank you~
Tact and civility have their place. But do not underestimate the power of your passion and anger.
We do not always have to play nice to the people who willingly participate in our marginalization, discrimination, and oppression. We are under no obligation to cater to bigots.
Beyonce had an all female performed , multiracial, international music performance
but feminism writes letters to her daughter about why mommy and daddy aren’t really women positive.
Lena Dunham shits on feminists, race baits, queer baits, and is an islamophobe
but they publish tome up on tome about how they need to defend her right to be obnoxious
A+++ rant from Kate Harding on the MRA movement and how it’s not actually about the real issues men face, but about putting feminists in their place.
(originally appeared on Jezebel)
Speaks my anger pretty well.